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Be wary of including [[derivatives]] or other non-debt-like money payment obligations in the definition of {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}}, no matter how high a {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}. We would say ''never'' do it, but the wise minds of the [[credit department]] may well be beyond your calming influence, so you may not have a choice. But if you have a choice, don’t do it.  
Be wary of including [[derivatives]] or other non-debt-like money payment obligations in the definition of {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}}, no matter how high a {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}. We would say ''never'' do it, but the wise minds of the [[credit department]] may well be beyond your calming influence, so you may not have a choice. But if you have a choice, don’t do it.  


In its unadulterated formulation, {{isdaprov|Cross Default}} aggregates up all {{isdaprov|Transaction}}-level defaults, so even though a single {{isdama}} would be unlikely to have a ''net'' [[out-of-the-money]] [[MTM]] of anywhere near the {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}, a large number of individual {{isdaprov|Transaction}} [[MTM]]s, if aggregated, may — particularly if you’re selective about which transactions you’re counting — ''which {{isdaprov|Cross Default}} entitles you to be''.  
In its unadulterated formulation, {{isdaprov|Cross Default}} aggregates up all {{isdaprov|Transaction}}-level defaults, so even though a single {{isdama}} would be unlikely to have a ''net'' [[out-of-the-money]] [[MTM]] of anywhere near the {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}, a large number of individual {{isdaprov|Transaction}} [[MTM]]s, if aggregated, may — particularly if you’re selective about which {{isdaprov|Transaction}}s you’re counting — ''which {{isdaprov|Cross Default}} entitles you to be''.  


Thus, where you have a large number of small failures, you can still have a big problem. This is why you should also [[carve out]] [[deposit]]s: [[Operational error|operational failure]] or regulatory action can create an immediate problem, especially for banks.
Thus, where you have a large number of small failures, you can still have a big problem. (This is why [[bank]]s should also [[carve out]] [[deposit]]s: [[Operational error|operational failure]] or regulatory action can create an immediate problem).


Now it is true that you can provide the {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} represented by a [[master trading agreement]] can be calculated by reference to its net close-out amount, but this only really points up the imbalance between buy-side and sell-side. Sure, buy-side managers may have fifty or even a hundred {{isdama}}s but they will be split across dozens of different funds. [[Broker dealer|Broker-dealer]]s, on the other hand, will have ''hundreds of thousands of [[master agreement]]s, all facing the same legal entity''. Credit dudes: ''you are the wrong side of this risk, fellas''.  
Now it is true that you can require the {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} of a [[master trading agreement]] to be calculated by reference to its net close-out amount, but this only really points up the imbalance between buy-side and sell-side. Sure, fund managers may have fifty or even a hundred {{isdama}}s, but they will be split across dozens of different funds., each a different entity with its own {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}. [[Broker dealer|Broker-dealer]]s, on the other hand, will have literally ''hundreds of thousands of [[master agreement]]s, all facing the same legal entity''. Credit dudes: ''you are the wrong side of this risk, fellas''.  


Now seeing as most trading agreements are fully collateralised, and so don’t represent material indebtedness on a netted basis, it may be that even with hundreds of thousands of the blighters, no-one’s {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}} will ever be seriously threatened. But if no {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}} is ever at risk from an {{isdama}}, then ''why are you including the {{isdama}} in {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} in the first place?''  
Now seeing as most [[master trading agreement]]s are fully collateralised, and so don’t represent material [[indebtedness]] on a netted basis anyway, it may be that even with hundreds of thousands of the blighters, no-one’s {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}} will ever be seriously threatened. But if no {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}} is ever at risk from an {{isdama}}, then ''why are you including the {{isdama}} in {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} in the first place?''  


O tempora. O [[paradox]]. <br>
O tempora. O [[paradox]]. <br>