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For those inclined to look even gift horses in the mouth, this provision may appear to leave some things unsaid.  
For those inclined to look even gift horses in the mouth, this provision may appear to leave some things unsaid.  


What if it has become illegal to hold {{eqderivprov|Shares}} in one way but it remains legal to hold them some other way? What if there was a way of holding them legally, but it was different from the way you had chosen to hold them? For example, if Shares needed to be listed on a certain exchange, or cleared across a certain CCP? Don’t laugh: this was one of the potential consequences of Brexit
====Some ''other'' way of holding {{eqderivprov|Shares}}===
What if it has become illegal to hold {{eqderivprov|Shares}} ''the way the {{eqderivprov|Hedging Party}} is holding them'', but it remains legal to hold them some ''other'' way? For example, if Shares needed to be listed on a certain {{eqderivprov|Exchange}}, or cleared across a certain clearinghouse? At first blush this seems fanciful but before you laugh don’t forget this was one of the potential consequences of [[Brexit means Brexit|Brexit]] — and for the Swissies — when the EU share trading obligation row blew up in 2019.


What if one could hedge via [[futures]], [[derivatives]] or some other method without significant extra cost or inconvenience?
Even leaving aside the direction that one must act in [[good faith]] in arriving at one’s conclusion, it is hard to see how one could say it was “''illegal'' to hold Shares” if in fact one ''could'' legally hold those {{eqderivprov|Shares}} some other way.  So this one’s a bit silly.


Even leaving aside the direction that one must act in [[good faith]] in arriving at one’s conclusion, it is hard to see how one could say it was “illegal to hold shares” if in fact one ''could'' legally hold those {{eqderivprov|Shares}} some other way.
====''Other'' hedges, without {{eqderivprov|Shares}}, still possible===
What if one could [[hedge]] via [[futures]], [[derivatives]], [[GDR]]s or some other instrument without significant extra cost or inconvenience? Would that still count as a Change in Law, just because you couldn't hedge with actual {{eqderivprov|Shares}}?


As for the argument that to “hold, acquire or dispose of {{eqderivprov|Shares}} relating to such {{eqderivprov|Transaction}}” too narrow when a {{eqderivprov|Hedging Party}} may be able to hedge some other way (i.e., via [[futures]] or [[swaps]]) — well, as fussy as it may be, this seems hard to fault, and, not even [[good faith]] can win the day here. On the other hand, if a jurisdiction has declared the very act of holding a physical security illegal, it is hard to see anyone in the jurisdiction offering a derivative on it, so this may be more of a theoretical than a practical objection, especially where it is a [[synthetic equity swap]] where the hedging party has no incentive not to be accommodating its client in sourcing  an alternative legal hedge if one exists.
But is “hold, acquire or dispose of {{eqderivprov|Shares}} relating to such {{eqderivprov|Transaction}}” too narrow when a {{eqderivprov|Hedging Party}} may be able to hedge some other way (i.e., via [[futures]], [[swaps]], [[depositary receipts]] and so on)?


All at the same, [[knee-slide and jet wings]] to the whoever the negotiator was who thought of that one.
Well, as fussy as it may seem, it is hard to fault in its basic logic. {{icds}} scope here does seem a bit barrow. Not even [[good faith]] can win the day here, since it only talks about acquiring, holding or disposing of {{eqderivprov|Shares}} themselves. On the other hand, if a jurisdiction has declared the very act of holding a physical {{eqderivprov|Share}} illegal, it is hard to see anyone in the jurisdiction offering a swap on it, so this may be more of a theoretical than a practical objection, especially where it is a [[synthetic equity swap]] where the hedging party has no incentive not to accommodate its client if it can source an alternative legal, somehow-derivative, [[hedge]].
 
You may, therefore, gracefully concede. We don’t think you’ll have to  often, this is a bit of an aficionado’s point. So, [[knee-slide and jet wings]] to the whoever the [[negotiator]] was who thought of it.

Revision as of 18:04, 30 April 2020

“It has become illegal”

For those inclined to look even gift horses in the mouth, this provision may appear to leave some things unsaid.

=Some other way of holding Shares

What if it has become illegal to hold Shares the way the Hedging Party is holding them, but it remains legal to hold them some other way? For example, if Shares needed to be listed on a certain Exchange, or cleared across a certain clearinghouse? At first blush this seems fanciful but before you laugh don’t forget this was one of the potential consequences of Brexit — and for the Swissies — when the EU share trading obligation row blew up in 2019.

Even leaving aside the direction that one must act in good faith in arriving at one’s conclusion, it is hard to see how one could say it was “illegal to hold Shares” if in fact one could legally hold those Shares some other way. So this one’s a bit silly.

=Other hedges, without Shares, still possible

What if one could hedge via futures, derivatives, GDRs or some other instrument without significant extra cost or inconvenience? Would that still count as a Change in Law, just because you couldn't hedge with actual Shares?

But is “hold, acquire or dispose of Shares relating to such Transaction” too narrow when a Hedging Party may be able to hedge some other way (i.e., via futures, swaps, depositary receipts and so on)?

Well, as fussy as it may seem, it is hard to fault in its basic logic. ISDA’s crack drafting squad™ scope here does seem a bit barrow. Not even good faith can win the day here, since it only talks about acquiring, holding or disposing of Shares themselves. On the other hand, if a jurisdiction has declared the very act of holding a physical Share illegal, it is hard to see anyone in the jurisdiction offering a swap on it, so this may be more of a theoretical than a practical objection, especially where it is a synthetic equity swap where the hedging party has no incentive not to accommodate its client if it can source an alternative legal, somehow-derivative, hedge.

You may, therefore, gracefully concede. We don’t think you’ll have to often, this is a bit of an aficionado’s point. So, knee-slide and jet wings to the whoever the negotiator was who thought of it.