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Be wary of including derivatives in the definition of {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}}, no matter how high | Be wary of including [[derivatives]] or other non-debt-like money payment obligations in the definition of {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}}, no matter how high a {{isdaprov|Threshold Amount}}. We would say ''never'' do it, but the wise minds of the [[credit department]] may well be beyond your calming influence, so you may not have a choice. But if you have a choice, don’t do it. | ||
{{isdaprov|Cross Default}} aggregates up all individual defaults, so even though a single {{isdama}} would be unlikely to have a ''net'' out-of-the-money [[MTM]] of anything like 3% of shareholders’ funds, a large number of individual transactions if aggregated may, particularly if you’re selective about which transactions you’re counting — which the language entitles you to be. | |||
Thus, where you have a large number of small failures, you can still have a big problem. This is why you should also [[carve out]] [[deposit]]s: [[Operational error|operational failure]] or regulatory action can create an immediate problem, especially for banks. | Thus, where you have a large number of small failures, you can still have a big problem. This is why you should also [[carve out]] [[deposit]]s: [[Operational error|operational failure]] or regulatory action can create an immediate problem, especially for banks. | ||
Now it is true that you | Now it is true that you can provide the {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} represented by a [[master trading agreement]] can be calculated by reference to its net close-out amount, but this only really points up the imbalance between buy-side and sell-side. Sure, buy-side managers may have fifty or even a hundred {{isdama}}s but they will be split across dozens of different funds. [[Broker dealer|Broker-dealer]]s, on the other hand, will have ''hundreds of thousands of [[master agreement]]s, all facing the same legal entity''. Credit dudes: ''you are the wrong side of this risk, fellas''. | ||
O tempora. O [[paradox]]. | Now seeing as most trading agreements are fully collateralised, and so don’t represent material indebtedness on a netted basis, it may be that even with hundreds of thousands of the blighters, no-one’s {{isdaprov|Threshold}} is ever seriously threatened. But if no threshold is ever at risk, then ''why are you including the {{isdama}} in {{isdaprov|Specified Indebtedness}} in the first place?'' | ||
O tempora. O [[paradox]]. <br> |
Revision as of 15:39, 3 November 2020
Derivatives as Specified Indebtedness
Be wary of including derivatives or other non-debt-like money payment obligations in the definition of Specified Indebtedness, no matter how high a Threshold Amount. We would say never do it, but the wise minds of the credit department may well be beyond your calming influence, so you may not have a choice. But if you have a choice, don’t do it.
Cross Default aggregates up all individual defaults, so even though a single ISDA Master Agreement would be unlikely to have a net out-of-the-money MTM of anything like 3% of shareholders’ funds, a large number of individual transactions if aggregated may, particularly if you’re selective about which transactions you’re counting — which the language entitles you to be.
Thus, where you have a large number of small failures, you can still have a big problem. This is why you should also carve out deposits: operational failure or regulatory action can create an immediate problem, especially for banks.
Now it is true that you can provide the Specified Indebtedness represented by a master trading agreement can be calculated by reference to its net close-out amount, but this only really points up the imbalance between buy-side and sell-side. Sure, buy-side managers may have fifty or even a hundred ISDA Master Agreements but they will be split across dozens of different funds. Broker-dealers, on the other hand, will have hundreds of thousands of master agreements, all facing the same legal entity. Credit dudes: you are the wrong side of this risk, fellas.
Now seeing as most trading agreements are fully collateralised, and so don’t represent material indebtedness on a netted basis, it may be that even with hundreds of thousands of the blighters, no-one’s Threshold is ever seriously threatened. But if no threshold is ever at risk, then why are you including the ISDA Master Agreement in Specified Indebtedness in the first place?
O tempora. O paradox.