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===So does that mean I can bin all this [[hypothetical broker-dealer]] nonsense?===
===So does that mean I can bin all this [[hypothetical broker-dealer]] nonsense?===
Since {{tag|WHT}} is now applied on [[high-delta equity derivative]]s in the same way it applies to physical cash trades, the [[recharacterisation]] risk is surely less fraught now, isn't it? do we really care whether the counterparty is seen to control the hedge?  Can we therefore get rid of that tiresome “[[hypothetical broker-dealer]]” language, which so mightily confuses many counterparties, and just reference the actual hedge liquidation price as the closing price of the derivative?
Since [[871(m)]] means that {{tag|WHT}} is now applied on [[high-delta equity derivative]]s in the same way it applies to physical cash trades, the [[recharacterisation]] risk is surely less fraught now, isn’t it? do we really care whether the counterparty controls the hedge?  Can we therefore get rid of that tiresome “[[hypothetical broker-dealer]]” language, which so mightily confuses many counterparties, and just reference the actual hedge liquidation price as the closing price of the derivative?


No, because 871(m) does not apply to all underliers that might feature in a [[synthetic equity]] transaction. and also because there are [[WHT]] and [[stamp duty]] regimes in other jurisdictions ([[SDRT]] on UK equities for example) where a derivative acheives preferential tax treatment over a cash equity trade.
No, because [[871(m)]] does not apply to all underliers that might feature in a [[synthetic equity]] transaction. and also because there are [[WHT]] and [[stamp duty]] regimes in other jurisdictions ([[SDRT]] on UK equities for example) where a derivative acheives preferential tax treatment over a cash equity trade.


But you’re right: the [[hypothetical broker-dealer]] business ''is'' [[Don’t take a piece of paper to a knife fight|ridiculous]].
But you’re right: the [[hypothetical broker-dealer]] business ''is'' [[Don’t take a piece of paper to a knife fight|ridiculous]].