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In most respects they are identical (with references to “{{vmcsaprov|Transferor}}” and “{{vmcsaprov|Transferee}}” switched to “{{nyvmcsaprov|Pledgor}}” and “{{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}}”). There are two technical differences, for completists:
In most respects they are identical (with references to “{{vmcsaprov|Transferor}}” and “{{vmcsaprov|Transferee}}” switched to “{{nyvmcsaprov|Pledgor}}” and “{{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}}”). There are two technical differences, for completists:
*The exception in the {{vmcsa}} for {{vmcsaprov|Legally Ineligible Credit Support}} counting as {{vmcsaprov|Eligible Credit Support}} for the purpose of {{vmcsaprov|Credit Support Balance}} and {{vmcsaprov|Equivalent Credit Support}}. This is because, being a {{ttca}}, even though it is worth zero ''for the purposes of discharging one’s regulatory obligation to collect and return collateral'', in the ''real'' world it is still worth something, and the {{vmcsaprov|Transferee}} still has to give it back, even if that has no effect on [[Value - VM CSA Provision|valuations]] under the {{vmcsa}}. With a {{nyvmcsa}} since the {{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}} never<ref>Ahem [[Use of Posted Collateral (VM) - NY VM CSA Provision|rehypothecation]] folks.</ref> “gets” it in the first place, the {{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}} doesn’t have to give it back either. (By the way, if you aren’t saying, “hey, but what about rehypothecation under Paragraph {{nyvmcsaprov|6(c)}}?” yet, you ''should'' be.)
*The exception in the {{vmcsa}} for {{vmcsaprov|Legally Ineligible Credit Support}} counting as {{vmcsaprov|Eligible Credit Support}} for the purpose of {{vmcsaprov|Credit Support Balance}} and {{vmcsaprov|Equivalent Credit Support}}. This is because, being a {{ttca}}, even though it is worth zero ''for the purposes of discharging one’s regulatory obligation to collect and return collateral'', in the ''real'' world it is still worth something, and the {{vmcsaprov|Transferee}} still has to give it back, even if that has no effect on [[Value - VM CSA Provision|valuations]] under the {{vmcsa}}. With a {{nyvmcsa}} since the {{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}} never<ref>Ahem [[Use of Posted Collateral (VM) - NY VM CSA Provision|rehypothecation]] folks.</ref> “gets” it in the first place, the {{nyvmcsaprov|Secured Party}} doesn’t have to give it back either. (By the way, if you aren’t saying, “hey, but what about rehypothecation under Paragraph {{nyvmcsaprov|6(c)}}?” yet, you ''should'' be.)
*The exception for valuation on {{csaprov|Default}} — that flows from the fundamental difference between the {{vmcsa}} a {{ttca}} which is a {{isdaprov|Transaction}} under the {{isdama}} and the {{nyvmcsa}} which is a {{sfca}} which is only a {{isdaprov|Credit Support Document}} under the {{isdama}}. <br>
*The exception for valuation on {{csaprov|Default}} — that flows from the fundamental difference between the {{vmcsa}} a {{ttca}} which is a {{isdaprov|Transaction}} under the {{isdama}} and the {{nyvmcsa}} which is a {{sfca}} which is only a {{isdaprov|Credit Support Document}} under the {{isdama}}.
One from the “well, I’ll be blowed” school of legal expression wherein {{icds}} states the bleeding obvious for the benefit of those [[Legal eagle|timid type]]s who — despite being schooled in its weft and warp — don’t quite trust the [[common law]] to deliver elementary common ''sense''.
 
On the one hand, you can see where they’re coming from — this is the same [[common law]] which concluded<ref>{{casenote|Greenclose|National Westminster Bank plc}}.</ref> [[email]] is not an [[electronic messaging system]], after all - but on the other hand ''come on''. <br>
 
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Revision as of 15:39, 13 May 2024

Legally ineligible Credit Support

New for the regulatory margin CSAs

There is no such concept in the ancient CSAs, concerning as it does legal and not contractual ineligibility of credit support, and that being a function of criteria imposed by regulators on one’s mandatory obligations to post and collect margin, which did not exist before 2016, it is hardly surprising ISDA’s crack drafting squad™ of yore didn’t anticipate the need for this clause, which is convoluted, finnicky, and you can avoid the need for it entirely, should you post cash in a sensible currency.

Regulatory margin title transfer CSA vs security interest CSA

In most respects they are identical (with references to “Transferor” and “Transferee” switched to “Pledgor” and “Secured Party”). There are two technical differences, for completists:

One from the “well, I’ll be blowed” school of legal expression wherein ISDA’s crack drafting squad™ states the bleeding obvious for the benefit of those timid types who — despite being schooled in its weft and warp — don’t quite trust the common law to deliver elementary common sense.

On the one hand, you can see where they’re coming from — this is the same common law which concluded[2] email is not an electronic messaging system, after all - but on the other hand come on.

Thanks for phoning it in, team.