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{{quote|“Section 6 does not apply where the debtor enters into a collateral obligation to pay the amount of the debt or any part of it on a fixed or determinable date or conditional on a demand for repayment (or other condition).”}}
{{quote|“Section 6 does not apply where the debtor enters into a collateral obligation to pay the amount of the debt or any part of it on a fixed or determinable date or conditional on a demand for repayment (or other condition).”}}
So if the [[promissory note]] itself is a demand loan, but it is pledged as collateral for another debt which isn’t, then it counts as having a payment date. That’s the best I can do. <br>
So if the [[promissory note]] itself is a demand loan, but it is pledged as collateral for another debt which isn’t, then it counts as having a payment date. That’s the best I can do. <br>
Note: “repayment on a stated maturity date, conditional upon demand by the creditor”, sounds a lot like the process for redeeming a bond — at least when held in physical, definitive form. Thus, definitive debt securities are ''not'' simple contracts.
Whether this is true of electronically cleared debt securities — that is, ahhh — all of them, these days — is a an interesting question, as these are paid out automatically to account holders in [[clearing system]]s.


===The {{repackprov|covenant to pay}}===
===The {{repackprov|covenant to pay}}===
Hence why the {{repackprov|covenant to pay}} in the terms of a secured note issue is also repeated in the [[security trust deed]] — it converts itself from a [[simple contract]] to a [[specialty]]. This is a bity of a cheeky run-around, in our view, but still.
Hence why the {{repackprov|covenant to pay}} in the terms of a secured note issue is also repeated in the [[security trust deed]] — it converts itself from a [[simple contract]] to a [[specialty]]. This is a bity of a cheeky run-around, in our view, but still.

Revision as of 10:26, 2 November 2023

Under the Limitation Act 1980 a “Simple contract” is one that is neither a “specialty[1] nor an insurance contract[2] nor a “contract of loan” which has no fixed repayment date, where repayment is not conditional on a demand, [warning:strap yourselves in for this next bit]

“except where, in connection with taking the loan, the debtor enters into any collateral obligation to pay the amount of the debt or any part of it (as, for example, by delivering a promissory note as security for the debt) on terms which would exclude the application of this section to the contract of loan if they applied directly to repayment of the debt.”

We quote that last bit in full because, for a short extract, it is bloody hard to decipher. There are no explanatory notes to the Limitation Act 1980, but for help we have that Law Commission bunker buster which says:

“Section 6 does not apply where the debtor enters into a collateral obligation to pay the amount of the debt or any part of it on a fixed or determinable date or conditional on a demand for repayment (or other condition).”

So if the promissory note itself is a demand loan, but it is pledged as collateral for another debt which isn’t, then it counts as having a payment date. That’s the best I can do.

Note: “repayment on a stated maturity date, conditional upon demand by the creditor”, sounds a lot like the process for redeeming a bond — at least when held in physical, definitive form. Thus, definitive debt securities are not simple contracts.

Whether this is true of electronically cleared debt securities — that is, ahhh — all of them, these days — is a an interesting question, as these are paid out automatically to account holders in clearing systems.

The covenant to pay

Hence why the covenant to pay in the terms of a secured note issue is also repeated in the security trust deed — it converts itself from a simple contract to a specialty. This is a bity of a cheeky run-around, in our view, but still.

  1. A written document that has been sealed, delivered and given as security for the payment of a specific debt.
  2. Perhaps not “simple” because of the implied duty of utmost good faith — who knows?