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Living things — biological organisms, but also [[cellular automaton|cellular automata]] etc) necessarily have encoded into them a set of “instructions” for their own replication: this is an operating condition for being a replicator: the organism functions a bit like a [[Turing machine]]. The physical substrate in which the substrate is encoded is not important tot he replication process in a material sense, only in a ''symbolic'' one. The instructions themselves are “[[Substrate|substrate neutral]]”: could be encoded in DNA, cells, ticker tape or code.
Living things — biological organisms, but also [[cellular automaton|cellular automata]] etc. — necessarily have encoded into them a set of “instructions” for their own replication: this is an operating condition of replicating: the organism functions like a [[Turing machine]].  
 
The physical [[substrate]] in which the information is encoded is not materially important to the replication process, only ''symbolically'' so. The instructions themselves are “[[Substrate|substrate neutral]]”: you could encode them in DNA, cells, ticker tape or code. You could build a Turing machine out of transistors, vacuum tubes, or ten-ton concrete blocks, each would take wildly different amounts of more energy to process the same simple string, and all vastly more than would a Pentium processor. ''But the symbolic meaning of the string inside the Turing machine would be the same''.


Now, [[philosophy]] nuts: recall from your ''God, Mind and Free Will'' intro lectures the materialist “clincher” that proved consciousness must be wholly material: ''there is no evidence for non-material causal interventions in the physical world''. If there were, there would be some kind of injection or leakage of energy into the physical system. But there is not: energy is conserved. A non-material consciousness to would invalidate the laws of thermodynamics: non-material consciousness breaks rules of thermodynamics, in other words. Game over.
Now, [[philosophy]] nuts: recall from your ''God, Mind and Free Will'' intro lectures the materialist “clincher” that proved consciousness must be wholly material: ''there is no evidence for non-material causal interventions in the physical world''. If there were, there would be some kind of injection or leakage of energy into the physical system. But there is not: energy is conserved. A non-material consciousness to would invalidate the laws of thermodynamics: non-material consciousness breaks rules of thermodynamics, in other words. Game over.


But, hold on: this is, as [[Daniel Dennett]] articulates it, {br|Darwin’s Dangerous Idea}}. Evolution is an [[algorithm]]ic process. It is, in its most abstract sense, a manipulation of symbolic logic. And isn’t this *exactly* what a symbolic language does? It operates on a figurative level: it injects meaning independent of the substrate in which it is articulated, without the need for any physical causal intervention? Thermodynamics are irrelevant.  
But, hold on: this, as [[Daniel Dennett]] articulates it, is exactly {{br|Darwin’s Dangerous Idea}}. [[Evolution]] is an [[algorithm]]ic process. It is, in its most abstract sense, a manipulation of symbolic logic. And isn’t this ''exactly'' what a symbolic language does? It operates on a [[Metaphor|figurative]] level: it injects meaning independent of the substrate in which it is articulated, without the need for any physical causal intervention? Thermodynamics are irrelevant to the conveyance of a meaning which itself undoubtedly changes the physical universe. A new organism is created.
 
''This non-material intellectual structure has a direct causal effect on the physical world.''


If you analyse a [[Turing machine]] in purely thermodynamic terms (the transfer of energy inside a physical brain, or across a CPU) you are missing ''almost everything important about the machine''.
To analyse a [[Turing machine]] in purely thermodynamic terms (in terms of its total transfer of energy while physically operating) is to miss ''everything important about the Turing machine''.


The heat energy of a sentence is not what is meaningful about it.  
The heat energy of a sentence is not what is meaningful about a sentence, that is to say.  


Hamlet’s phrase: “[[There’s the rub|The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune]]” has less physical energy content — at the limit, less total ''information'' content — than the four paragraphs that precede it.  
Take Hamlet’s phrase: “[[There’s the rub|The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune]]”. It has less physical energy content — at the limit, less total ''information'' content — than the paragraphs that precede it in this article.  


But it doesn’t, does it? Those seven words are far richer, more meaningful, and culturally significant than the entire output of this wiki: at last count, {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles containing tens of thousands of lines of pompous, deluded text.<ref>Oh but [[paradox]]: This wiki contains — ''twice'' — the expression “The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” — ''three times now!'' — so does that mean it has falsified itself? We think not. Because — ''context''.</ref>
But it doesn’t, does it? Those seven words are ''far'' richer, more meaningful and more culturally significant than the entire content  of this wiki: at last count, {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles containing tens of thousands of lines of pompous, deluded text.<ref>Oh but [[paradox]]: This wiki contains — ''twice'' — the expression “The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” — ''three times now!'' — so does that mean it has falsified itself? We think not. Because — ''context''.</ref>


Any research program that stops there — as materialism does — has missed a pretty big part of the picture.
Any research program that stops there — as materialism does — has missed a pretty big part of the picture. In any case an eliminative materialist position, that says brain states are

Latest revision as of 14:48, 15 November 2022

Living things — biological organisms, but also cellular automata etc. — necessarily have encoded into them a set of “instructions” for their own replication: this is an operating condition of replicating: the organism functions like a Turing machine.

The physical substrate in which the information is encoded is not materially important to the replication process, only symbolically so. The instructions themselves are “substrate neutral”: you could encode them in DNA, cells, ticker tape or code. You could build a Turing machine out of transistors, vacuum tubes, or ten-ton concrete blocks, each would take wildly different amounts of more energy to process the same simple string, and all vastly more than would a Pentium processor. But the symbolic meaning of the string inside the Turing machine would be the same.

Now, philosophy nuts: recall from your God, Mind and Free Will intro lectures the materialist “clincher” that proved consciousness must be wholly material: there is no evidence for non-material causal interventions in the physical world. If there were, there would be some kind of injection or leakage of energy into the physical system. But there is not: energy is conserved. A non-material consciousness to would invalidate the laws of thermodynamics: non-material consciousness breaks rules of thermodynamics, in other words. Game over.

But, hold on: this, as Daniel Dennett articulates it, is exactly Darwin’s Dangerous Idea. Evolution is an algorithmic process. It is, in its most abstract sense, a manipulation of symbolic logic. And isn’t this exactly what a symbolic language does? It operates on a figurative level: it injects meaning independent of the substrate in which it is articulated, without the need for any physical causal intervention? Thermodynamics are irrelevant to the conveyance of a meaning which itself undoubtedly changes the physical universe. A new organism is created.

This non-material intellectual structure has a direct causal effect on the physical world.

To analyse a Turing machine in purely thermodynamic terms (in terms of its total transfer of energy while physically operating) is to miss everything important about the Turing machine.

The heat energy of a sentence is not what is meaningful about a sentence, that is to say.

Take Hamlet’s phrase: “The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”. It has less physical energy content — at the limit, less total information content — than the paragraphs that precede it in this article.

But it doesn’t, does it? Those seven words are far richer, more meaningful and more culturally significant than the entire content of this wiki: at last count, 4,499 articles containing tens of thousands of lines of pompous, deluded text.[1]

Any research program that stops there — as materialism does — has missed a pretty big part of the picture. In any case an eliminative materialist position, that says brain states are

  1. Oh but paradox: This wiki contains — twice — the expression “The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” — three times now! — so does that mean it has falsified itself? We think not. Because — context.