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:''{{isdaprov|Loss}} includes losses and costs (or gains) in respect of any payment or delivery required to have been made (assuming satisfaction of each applicable condition precedent) on or before the relevant Early Termination Date and not made, '''except, so as to avoid duplication, if Section {{isdaprov|6(e)(i)}}(1) or (3) or {{isdaprov|6(e)(ii)}}(2)(A) applies'''...''
:''{{isdaprov|Loss}} includes losses and costs (or gains) in respect of any payment or delivery required to have been made (assuming satisfaction of each applicable condition precedent) on or before the relevant Early Termination Date and not made, '''except, so as to avoid duplication, if Section {{isdaprov|6(e)(i)}}(1) or (3) or {{isdaprov|6(e)(ii)}}(2)(A) applies'''...''


There is a magnificent piece of ISDA discombobulation here: Section {{isdaprov|6(e)(i)}}(1) and (3), and {{isdaprov|6(e)(ii)}}(2)(A), all deal exclusively with ISDA master agreements where the parties have agreed {{isdaprov|Market Quotation}}, and not {{isdaprov|Loss}}, applies. So there is, in fact, ''no'' risk of duplication, since the definition of {{isdaprov|Loss}} is entirely irrelevant to these parts of the agreement.  
There ''looks'' to be a magnificent piece of ISDA discombobulation here: Section {{isdaprov|6(e)(i)}}(1) and (3), and {{isdaprov|6(e)(ii)}}(2)(A), all deal exclusively with ISDA master agreements where the parties have agreed {{isdaprov|Market Quotation}}, and not {{isdaprov|Loss}}, applies. So there is, in fact, ''no'' risk of duplication, since the definition of {{isdaprov|Loss}} is entirely irrelevant to these parts of the agreement. ... until you look at the definition of {{isdaprov|Settlement Amount}}, which defaults to {{isdaprov|Loss}} (note: but ''not counting {{isdaprov|Unpaid Amounts}}'' — it makes you weep doesn’t it) when, as most assuredly it will, {{isdaprov|Market Quotation}} turns out to be a totally impractical means of valuing a {{isdaprov|Terminated Transaction}}, since ''no-one will give you a price for a trade they can’t actually enter''.


===Loss no more===
===Loss no more===

Revision as of 17:16, 29 July 2019

Template:Isda92anat Loss is a means of valuing Transactions following their Early Termination under the 1992 ISDA. Spoddy point: the definition of Loss in the 1992 ISDA includes the “Unpaid Amount” concept in its definition:

Loss includes losses and costs (or gains) in respect of any payment or delivery required to have been made (assuming satisfaction of each applicable condition precedent) on or before the relevant Early Termination Date and not made, except, so as to avoid duplication, if Section 6(e)(i)(1) or (3) or 6(e)(ii)(2)(A) applies...

There looks to be a magnificent piece of ISDA discombobulation here: Section 6(e)(i)(1) and (3), and 6(e)(ii)(2)(A), all deal exclusively with ISDA master agreements where the parties have agreed Market Quotation, and not Loss, applies. So there is, in fact, no risk of duplication, since the definition of Loss is entirely irrelevant to these parts of the agreement. ... until you look at the definition of Settlement Amount, which defaults to Loss (note: but not counting Unpaid Amounts — it makes you weep doesn’t it) when, as most assuredly it will, Market Quotation turns out to be a totally impractical means of valuing a Terminated Transaction, since no-one will give you a price for a trade they can’t actually enter.

Loss no more

Under the 2002 ISDA it (and Market Quotation) was superseded by the better concept of the Close-out Amount.

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