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In this way, the client account is isolated the firm’s creditors on the firm’s insolvency (such a failure a “[[primary pooling event]]”).  
In this way, the client account is isolated the firm’s creditors on the firm’s insolvency (such a failure a “[[primary pooling event]]”).  
===[[Cash]]===
[[Cash]] is special. It is unlike any other financial instrument. Title to [[cash]], by definition, passes by delivery. You can’t deal with your interests in cash. You can hold it, or pass it, and that’s it.
===Banks===
===Banks===
Approved banks do not have to offer client money protection – they have a specific exemption from doing so in the CASS rules – but may do so if they wish. But they may well find it is quite painful and difficult to do.  
Approved banks do not have to offer client money protection – they have a specific exemption from doing so in the CASS rules – but may do so if they wish. But they may well find it is quite painful and difficult to do.  
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*In some cases (for example a {{tag|CSA}} or even a [[loan]]) the payee might in turn have to pay some money back to you at a later date. But you are exposed to the payee’s credit risk in the mean time: you are a '''creditor'''.  
*In some cases (for example a {{tag|CSA}} or even a [[loan]]) the payee might in turn have to pay some money back to you at a later date. But you are exposed to the payee’s credit risk in the mean time: you are a '''creditor'''.  
*This general case does '''not''' involve [[client money]]  (see {{tag|CASS}} {{Cassprov|7.11.25}}).
*This general case does '''not''' involve [[client money]]  (see {{tag|CASS}} {{Cassprov|7.11.25}}).
*You could say this is “title transfer” of cash, but you don't need to, because cash is special: title to cash, by definition, passes by delivery. <br>
*You could say this is “title transfer” of [[cash]], but you don't need to, because all delivery of cash it title transfer. There ''is'' no title to cash. <br>


'''The special case''': ''Because you want your counterparty to look after it for you, in connection with some other service it is providing you.''  
'''The special case''': ''Because you want your counterparty to look after it for you, in connection with some other service it is providing you.''  
*Here, you don't owe the payee anything. The only contract you have arises because it has agreed to look after your money for you.  
*Here, you don't owe the payee anything. The only contract you have arises because it has agreed to look after your money for you.  
*This special case is a sort of safekeeping: it is a regulated activity. In the UK it is regulated by the {{tag|FCA}} under the [[Client Asset Sourcebook]] (fondly known as the {{tag|CASS}} rules).
*This special case is a sort of safekeeping: it is a regulated activity. In the UK it is regulated by the {{tag|FCA}} under the [[Client Asset Sourcebook]] (fondly known as the {{tag|CASS}} rules).
*Now this special case creates a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]] problem, because when you look after something, you’re not meant to take ownership of it. You’'re just a {{tag|custodian}}. But as noted above, you ''can’t'' "just look after" someone else’s cash: Cash is special. Just by holding it, you own it.  
*Now this special case creates a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]] problem, because when you look after something, you’re not meant to take ownership of it. You’'re just a {{tag|custodian}}. But as noted above, you ''can’t'' "just look after" someone else’s cash.  
*This necessitates two things:
*This necessitates two things:
**''First'': A person agreeing to look after your money can’t keep it: it must pass it on to someone else to look after, and since — hang on: that creates an infinite regression doesn’t it? — therefore...
**''First'': A person agreeing to look after your money can’t keep it: it must pass it on to someone else to look after, and since — hang on: that creates an infinite regression doesn’t it? — therefore...
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**When you deposit your money with a bank you have its credit risk. But, as we all now know, banks are special: they’re carefully regulated, well capitalised and generally designed to be appropriate places to look after your money.
**When you deposit your money with a bank you have its credit risk. But, as we all now know, banks are special: they’re carefully regulated, well capitalised and generally designed to be appropriate places to look after your money.


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====In a {{nutshell}}====
====In a {{nutshell}} then?====
A normal bank deposit is an unsecured liability of the bank’s to repay an amount of money: it is a form or loan, repayable on-demand. a bank deposit does is not any kind of right over any money deposited by the bank: it can’t be.
''Anyone'' can borrow some money off you; only someone special can hold your money for you. Everyone else has to look after your money by giving it to a bank to hold for you in your name. In that case there is no debtor/creditor relationship with the payee as long as the payee promptly transfers the cash on to a bank with whom you will have a debtor/creditor relationship. Note this is also title transfer (you can’t {{isdaprov|not}} title transfer cash), but within a prescribed period, the transfer goes to a third party bank. (if the intermediary were to go insolvent in the mean time it's tough luck).
 
Only banks are entitled to hold deposits. Everyone else to whom you give cash, apropos nothing, must deposit it with a bank. The bank will record that the account is in the name of the depositor as trustee for its client. In that case there is no debtor/creditor relationship with the payee as long as the payee promptly transfers the [[cash]] on to a bank with whom you will have a debtor/creditor relationship. Note this is also title transfer (you can’t {{isdaprov|not}} title transfer cash), but within a prescribed period, the transfer goes to a third party bank. (if the intermediary were to go insolvent in the mean time it's tough luck).
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===Banks===
===[[Bank]]s===
Deposit-taking credit institutions benefit from the general “{{cassprov|banking exemption}}” (CASS {{cassprov|7.10.16}}) from the obligation to hold money on behalf of clients subject to the client money rules.
Deposit-taking credit institutions benefit from the general “{{cassprov|banking exemption}}” (CASS {{cassprov|7.10.16}}) from the obligation to hold money on behalf of clients subject to the client money rules.
{{Client money and cash brokerage}}
{{Client money and cash brokerage}}

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