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The Agent may from time to time obtain and rely upon advice from professional advisers ''and will not be liable for any action taken or [[Act or omission|not taken]] in reliance upon that advice''.}}
The Agent may from time to time obtain and rely upon advice from professional advisers ''and will not be liable for any action taken or [[Act or omission|not taken]] in reliance upon that advice''.}}


You may hear the agent’s legal advisers sagely intoning that, yes, this is absolutely standard in the market and non-negotiable, being a simple and effective allocation of risk by a service provider who gets paid a pittance and otherwise does not benefits from the fruits of the transaction.
You may hear the agent’s legal advisers sagely intoning that, yes, this is absolutely standard in the market and non-negotiable, being a simple and effective allocation of risk by a service provider who gets paid a pittance and otherwise does not share the fruits of the transaction.


Have no truck with this nonsense. ''Especially'' not from external legal advisors, who have a raging [[Conflicts of interest|conflict of interest]] in dispensing this sort of “market colour”.
Have no truck with this nonsense. ''Especially'' not from [[External counsel|external legal advisors]], who have a raging [[Conflicts of interest|conflict of interest]] in dispensing this sort of “market colour”.
===Bad advice is not the client’s problem===
=== Bad advice is not the client’s problem===
No one is stopping an agent getting whatever [[Legal advice|advice]] it wants, ''on its own dime and at its own risk''. It’s a free country.  
No one is stopping an agent getting whatever [[Legal advice|advice]] it wants, ''on its own dime and at its own risk''. It’s a free country. Now, we say, “its own dime”: note, though, how common it is for an agent to ask the customer to foot the bill for its own legal advice.  


No one is stopping the agent ''relying'' on whatever advice it gets. That’s an [[agent]]’s prerogative. That it ''did'' get advice may even be (weak) evidence that it diligently discharged its duty and wasn’t, factually, at fault.  
And no one is stopping the agent ''relying'' on the advice it gets. Again, free country: that’s an [[agent]]’s prerogative. That it ''did'' get advice may even be (weak) evidence that it diligently discharged its contractual duty and wasn’t, factually, at fault. ''Weak'' evidence.  


But if the advice is ''wrong'' that’s the agent’s problem, not ''yours''. The answer is ''not'' for the agent [[Disclaimer|disclaim]] its liability to you: ''it is for the agent to sue its lawyer''. That’s what it paid the blighters for: so they, and that juicy [[professional indemnity insurance]] policy they never seem to claim on, can cover the agent’s sorry arse if their advice turns out to be wrong and their client — you, kind sir — goes on the warpath.
But if the advice is ''wrong'', that’s the agent’s problem, not ''yours''.
===If fails the [[commercial imperative]]===
In any case, agents: think about it from your counterparty’s perspective. If you’ve buggered up, she’s lost money, you will not make her good, and you are letting your own ([[Q.E.D.]] [[negligent]]) [[Law firm|lawyer]]s off the hook. Whatever the documents say you will still have a pissed-off counterparty: make no mistake about that. She will think you are a moron. She may be right. She may withdraw her business. This undermines the [[commercial imperative]]. The [[commercial imperative]] is the main thing keeping you ''in'' business.


Nor, this way, are you getting good value out of that [[professional indemnity insurance]] you just bought,<ref>You know, by engaging legal counsel.</ref> are you? You are letting the ''actually delinquent party'' – your lawyer – off [[scot-free]] (your counterparty can’t sue your lawyer for (legally [[privilege|privileged]]) advice) and leaving your valued client – who is also, don’t forget, the only ''innocent'' party here – high and dry and without any legal recourse against ''anyone'', while your lawyer laughs it up all the way to the bank. ''A grand an hour charge-out rates, right?''
The answer is ''not'' for the agent [[Disclaimer|disclaim]] its liability to you: ''it is for the agent to sue its lawyers''. That’s what it paid the blighters for: so they, and that juicy [[professional indemnity insurance]] policy they never seem to claim on, can cover the agent’s blushes if their advice turns out to be wrong and their client’s client — that’s you, kind madam — goes on the warpath.
===If fails the commercial imperative===
In any case, agents: think about it from your customer’s point of view.


To say nothing of the perverse incentives this creates: in any time of [[doubt]] you run to matron for (most likely crappy) legal advice since every [[email]], file note or memo, however misconceived or dunderheaded, functions like a cloak of [[mithril]], protecting you from all pecuniary harm, parking all questions as to your culpability in arranging the advice, such as “was the legal ''advice'' [[negligent]], or were ''you'' [[negligent]], in the way you chose to frame it, implement it, or even understand it?
If you buggered up, your customer lost money and you will not now make it good, by letting your own ([[Q.E.D.]] [[negligent]]) [[Law firm|lawyer]]s off the hook, you throw your customer under a bus. 


===[[Cui bono]]?===
Your customer will not see the funny side of this. It will not matter that the contract is clear: your customer will rightly say it had little choice: your lawyers — yes, they who shall not be sued —hotly insisted this was a market standard. Rather, it will think you, and your lawyers, are morons. It may be right. It may withdraw its business. It may well grumble about you to other customers in the watering holes across the square mile. 
Ask yourself who, principally benefits from this provision? Certainly not the client, and not really you either, since you enforce it on pain of sacrificing the [[commercial imperative]] to save your lawyer’s hide. Your lawy — ahhhh, ''that’s'' it! ''That’s'' who benefits from this nutty clause. Your ''lawyer''!  
 
None of this will be good for your business. It undermines the [[commercial imperative]]: the main thing keeping you ''in'' business. Over the long run — unless your customer happens to be [[Archegos]] — the very worst thing a customer can do to you is withdraw its business. (Everyone now regrets that Archegos did not withdraw its business.)
 
=== It defeats the purpose of engaging lawyers ===
Nor, this way, are you getting value for your legal fees. Your customer, who is likely to be paying them, certainly isn’t. There is a view that legal advice is really just legal compliance insurance: to engage lawyers is to buy access to their[[professional indemnity insurance]]. 
 
But here you would let off the ''actually delinquent party'' — your lawyers; your ''servants'', who would have no complaint if you threw the book at them; who said they were the grand-an-hour experts on this stuff, but turned out not to be — [[scot-free]]. They get their premium, ''but you don’t make them write the insurance''. Why on earth would you do that?
 
If you won’t sue your lawyer, your customer ''can’t'': it has no privity. So the poor customer — who, don’t forget, is the only ''innocent'' party here — winds up paying for advice that gets you off the hook while being left high and dry and without any legal recourse against ''anyone''.
 
Is this prudent business? Is this commercially reasonable behaviour?
 
=== Incentives ===
This is to say nothing of the perverse incentives it creates. If an agent can dissolve all liability, for free, by simply running to matron every time a cloud appears on the horizon then what should we expect its staff to do? Since every legally-penned [[email]], file note or memo functions like a cloak of [[mithril]], however misconceived or dunderheaded it may be wouldn’t you expect an agent’s staff to decline to take a view on ''anything''? The agent holds itself out as the purveyor of excellence in its chosen field of expertise. Shouldn’t it be prepared to exercise that skill?
 
===Cui bono?===
Lastly, ask this: who, principally ''benefits'' from such a clause?
 
Certainly not the customer, and not really the agent either, since holding the putative free option incentivises poor behaviour from its staff, but exercising it will damage its client relationships. But the lawy — ahhhh, ''that’s'' it! ''That’s'' who benefits from this nutty clause. The ''lawyers''!  


''And whose idea was this nutty clause, in the first place?''
''And whose idea was this nutty clause, in the first place?''
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*[[Allocation of legal fees]]
* [[Allocation of legal fees]]
*[[Agency problem]]
*[[Agency problem]]
*The [[commercial imperative]]. ''Never'' forget the [[commercial imperative]].
*The [[commercial imperative]]. ''Never'' forget the [[commercial imperative]].

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You may see this sort of clause, especially in a custody or agency agreement:

Agent May Consult with Counsel
The Agent may from time to time obtain and rely upon advice from professional advisers and will not be liable for any action taken or not taken in reliance upon that advice.

You may hear the agent’s legal advisers sagely intoning that, yes, this is absolutely standard in the market and non-negotiable, being a simple and effective allocation of risk by a service provider who gets paid a pittance and otherwise does not share the fruits of the transaction.

Have no truck with this nonsense. Especially not from external legal advisors, who have a raging conflict of interest in dispensing this sort of “market colour”.

Bad advice is not the client’s problem

No one is stopping an agent getting whatever advice it wants, on its own dime and at its own risk. It’s a free country. Now, we say, “its own dime”: note, though, how common it is for an agent to ask the customer to foot the bill for its own legal advice.

And no one is stopping the agent relying on the advice it gets. Again, free country: that’s an agent’s prerogative. That it did get advice may even be (weak) evidence that it diligently discharged its contractual duty and wasn’t, factually, at fault. Weak evidence.

But if the advice is wrong, that’s the agent’s problem, not yours.

The answer is not for the agent disclaim its liability to you: it is for the agent to sue its lawyers. That’s what it paid the blighters for: so they, and that juicy professional indemnity insurance policy they never seem to claim on, can cover the agent’s blushes if their advice turns out to be wrong and their client’s client — that’s you, kind madam — goes on the warpath.

If fails the commercial imperative

In any case, agents: think about it from your customer’s point of view.

If you buggered up, your customer lost money and you will not now make it good, by letting your own (Q.E.D. negligent) lawyers off the hook, you throw your customer under a bus.

Your customer will not see the funny side of this. It will not matter that the contract is clear: your customer will rightly say it had little choice: your lawyers — yes, they who shall not be sued —hotly insisted this was a market standard. Rather, it will think you, and your lawyers, are morons. It may be right. It may withdraw its business. It may well grumble about you to other customers in the watering holes across the square mile.

None of this will be good for your business. It undermines the commercial imperative: the main thing keeping you in business. Over the long run — unless your customer happens to be Archegos — the very worst thing a customer can do to you is withdraw its business. (Everyone now regrets that Archegos did not withdraw its business.)

It defeats the purpose of engaging lawyers

Nor, this way, are you getting value for your legal fees. Your customer, who is likely to be paying them, certainly isn’t. There is a view that legal advice is really just legal compliance insurance: to engage lawyers is to buy access to theirprofessional indemnity insurance.

But here you would let off the actually delinquent party — your lawyers; your servants, who would have no complaint if you threw the book at them; who said they were the grand-an-hour experts on this stuff, but turned out not to be — scot-free. They get their premium, but you don’t make them write the insurance. Why on earth would you do that?

If you won’t sue your lawyer, your customer can’t: it has no privity. So the poor customer — who, don’t forget, is the only innocent party here — winds up paying for advice that gets you off the hook while being left high and dry and without any legal recourse against anyone.

Is this prudent business? Is this commercially reasonable behaviour?

Incentives

This is to say nothing of the perverse incentives it creates. If an agent can dissolve all liability, for free, by simply running to matron every time a cloud appears on the horizon then what should we expect its staff to do? Since every legally-penned email, file note or memo functions like a cloak of mithril, however misconceived or dunderheaded it may be wouldn’t you expect an agent’s staff to decline to take a view on anything? The agent holds itself out as the purveyor of excellence in its chosen field of expertise. Shouldn’t it be prepared to exercise that skill?

Cui bono?

Lastly, ask this: who, principally benefits from such a clause?

Certainly not the customer, and not really the agent either, since holding the putative free option incentivises poor behaviour from its staff, but exercising it will damage its client relationships. But the lawy — ahhhh, that’s it! That’s who benefits from this nutty clause. The lawyers!

And whose idea was this nutty clause, in the first place?

Let the record reflect a certain Mr L. Eagle, Esq. stepped forward at this point.

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